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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:15 pm 
I bought a swift and assembled it. Took it to the river and fell in. :mrgreen:

later i found out that I had probably had the sponsons too low.
I will give it another go but am now quite nervous about taking it out to sea with my seakayaking friends with hardshell 18ft carbon superboats. One of which i had a paddle in the other day and felt really stable.

Any advice to stop me drowning would be much appreciated. Thanks


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:31 pm 
Just practice.

When I first got my kayak I dreaded that I had made a terrible mistake; it felt like there was no way it would ever feel stable enough. A few months later I was going out on every storm to play in the waves :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:40 am 
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skratt wrote:
I bought a swift and assembled it. Took it to the river and fell in. :mrgreen:
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Any advice to stop me drowning would be much appreciated. Thanks


Fell in while getting into the boat (needs a bit of care with any kayak) or while paddling? Calm river or moving? I had a Swift for a couple of years, and never found it unstable. Can I ask how much kayaking experience you have?

The most useful stability hint I give to novice guests is: keep your head over the seat - don't lean it out sideways.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:31 pm 
the boat tipped sideways after leaving the shore about 10 metres. I tried again but was rather nervous. Felt very tippy. ( calm estuary )
Im not that experienced but have been out a few times on seakayaks and used an inflatable for a year.
So I will try again and make sure the sponsons are higher this time. I will practice and not be beaten.
I live in a motorhome (RV) so needed something I could stow in a locker... the swift is great for that. Also Its quicker to dry than an inflatable and faster.
However I could use a windpaddle with my inflatable ( Advanced frame ) with no problem sailing several miles down the coast and catching a bus back.
I would like to feel secure enough to do that with the swift.
So hopefully after more practice I will post here to say all is well and laugh at myself for worrying about such trepidation.
cheers, :D


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:51 pm 
It sound like my own experience. To oversimplify things, fat kayaks and inflatables feel very stable at the expense of speed (or drag); it takes a lot of energy to displace all that water out of your way.

First couple of times on mine I was falling in flat water. After a few months I was chasing waves.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:54 pm 
Thankyou Mr DevNull.
I can now see the light at the end of the wobbly tunnel and will persevere with my swift.
However.... please dont feel the slightest bit guilty if I drown. :shock:
am going out this week on it and will let you know if I survived or not.
cheers, Skratt :D


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:04 pm 
The Swift is quite stable i.m.o. At least until one leans it hard. Small cockpit entry perhaps a challenge 4 beginners, and air seat gives less kayak contact. Not much thigh support. Get the foot brace if you don't have it. Consider making lower foam seat. Low center of gravity at entry is always good. Relax waist once on the way.. My 2 cents..


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:55 am 
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for me the swift is one of he best folding kayaks I ever used. I had one, my wife tried it and then I had one.



I am looking for a new one, but the transport cost form uk to austria are so high. it's a pitty :-(((

maybe I copy th swift resized upto 16 feet in cas of transportation capacity and speed


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:27 am 
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dschin wrote:
I am looking for a new one, but the transport cost form uk to austria are so high.


The Pakboats website lists several dealers in Germany. Would this help?
http://www.pakboats.com/index.php?optio ... Itemid=146

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:07 am 
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I know them - but there are no swifts availible. they are out of stock

and these guys, who are owning a swift, didn't want to sell them

I tried the xt15 an xt16 as solo, but the feeling in a swift is better.
I belive the hull has a better shape


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