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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:17 am 
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Hi,

Would really appreciate your advice. I am planning a month long sea kakaying trip in the Philippines where there is reef and rock. I am exploring getting a folding kayak but, my main concern is the need for repairs in these conditions. Any suggestions for folding kayaks for longer trips in the tropics with reef and rock?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:48 pm 
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Perhaps we should start by asking why you need a folder...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:50 pm 
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I would like a folder because I travel alot and am looking for something portable to take on the airplane.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:40 am 
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If light weight for airlines is important, go for something with an aluminium frame. These days that means a Pakboats 150 if you're buying new (Trak is quite heavy at 22 kg). Easy to load with the removable deck too.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:53 pm 
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I used a Feathercraft Khatsalano in Okinawa for some trips up to 3 weeks. Handled reefs well

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:15 pm 
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I lived in the Philippines for two years. It would be fantastic for sea kayak touring, but very challenging without a guide. The guide would be at least as much to deal with villagers, fishermen, etc., as anything else. And since you would be looking into a guide, I would look into using an outfitter for the entire deal.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:28 am 
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The Aironaut could handle it. The guys at KayakAsia have done several trips with open ocean crossings in Aironauts.

You can still find Aironauts for sale here and there. Still a few floating around out there. No pun intended 8) When I bought mine, I emailed and called every shop I could find. There were surprisingly quite a few out there. I found them in New Zealand, Singapore, Germany, Canada, etc...

Here's KayakAsia's review including a story about a trip to the Philippines:

http://fullmoon.blogspot.jp/2014/06/feathercraft-aironaut-review.html
http://fullmoon.blogspot.jp/2015/04/further-adventures-on-aironaut.html

Give them a call. They are super friendly and always ready to offer advice.

59C Temple Street, Singapore 058604
info@kayakasia-ps.com
+65 9756 2040

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:06 pm 
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siravingmon wrote:
If light weight for airlines is important, go for something with an aluminium frame. These days that means a Pakboats 150 if you're buying new (Trak is quite heavy at 22 kg). Easy to load with the removable deck too.

+1. The new hull material is supposedly significantly more durable than on the previous models, and it's also easily repaired, which seems important for the OP.

Depending on your budget you might also consider some Oru kayaks. Their newer 'Coast' model performs well and is reportedly durable, but it's bulky and cumbersome over longer distances without a car. It doesn't seem nearly as conducive to airline travel as the Quest and is also at least a few hundred dollars more depending on the model.

As siravingmon wrote, the Trak Seeker is an excellent kayak overall, but it's heavy and also fairly bulky. The info I've gathered seems to indicate it's not very conducive to airline travel. It also costs about $3K new, $2500 for a used demo model.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:01 am 
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Wow, such great info and kayaks to look further into. Thanks everyone for the response and insight.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:54 pm 
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Another advantage to the Pakboat Quest 150 (and also their Puffin models, which are not quite as rigid) is that they can be paddles with or without the deck. In a hot climate, that can be a bonus. Also, the velcro-attached deck makes accessing packed gear stuffed under the deck very easy. Unless you anticipate paddling in very rough waters, a Puffin Saco could suit you for moderate coastal touring.

I'm not sure how soon the new Quest 150 models will be available (they were a redesign of the previous Quest models). There are still some of the prior models available, but the design doesn't allow removal of the decks in those.

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