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Eskimo Roll

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:31 am
by hahsee
hello all
I hope to buy an older klepper aerius single folder and wondered if anyway could tell me about the techniques for dealing with a capsise.i.e. are they the same as for a rigid Kayak
in anticipation
thankyou
regards
Richard

Re: Eskimo Roll

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:31 am
by maryinoxford
It's quite hard to capsize a Klepper - it's wider and more stable than most hardshell sea kayaks. However, because of the width and the roomy cockpit, it would not be easy to roll. You would find it hard to get yourself secure enough in the cockpit, and more likely would just fall out if you capsized.

This leaves you needing to re-enter the kayak, and there's a discussion about this here:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3310&start=0

The original poster was talking about a double, but most of the comments would also apply to a single. The main thing to remember is, a swamped Klepper would hold a LOT of water. So if you're in any situation where a capsize is remotely possible, you should fill all the empty space in the boat with air bags. (Or kit in dry bags.) Make sure your bags are secured in place so you can't lose them.

I hope you enjoy your Klepper when you get it.

Mary

Re: Eskimo Roll

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:48 pm
by hahsee
Thanks Mary
I had assumed as much but appreciate your reply.
I have the opportunity to buy an old (30 plus years I think) unused and dry stored Klepper aerius plus sailing rig for USD$1254 and I am tossing up whether to go the folder route for its portabilty etcetc or not

regards
Richard

Re: Eskimo Roll

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:37 am
by nohoval_turrets
Hi hahsee, can you roll already?

I once succeeded in rolling my Klepper Alu-lite, but I wouldn't consider it a dependable rescue. The problem is exactly what Mary described - you can't grip the boat securely. I could just about do it in calm water, but I could feel that the boat was on the verge of slipping away from me. Maybe in the Aerius you can get a better grip.

If you can roll already, and if the grip is better in the Aerius, maybe a roll is possible. If you are aiming to learn to roll, this wouldn't be the boat to learn in.

Re: Eskimo Roll

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:47 am
by kenton
I think you good people missed the mark ...

I think the answer he's seeking is as follows -

Usually consumed at the time of, or around breakfast :

It's a bit of pastry rolled into a long narrow piece, coated all around in cinnamon sugar; then rolled into a flat spiral shape and baked. Upon being removed from the oven, some sugary glaze is drizzled over the top. Then out of the freezer get some vanilla ice cream, et voĆ­la ...

ESKIMO ROLL !

... no ?

Re: Eskimo Roll

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:32 am
by hahsee
Thanks Kenton we call that a snail down under here in OZ
I have also gathered that short of Gale force conditions or a sailing capsize a Klepper stays upright and if inverted you will not be in it but squarely in the briney or checking out Neptunes locker.
regards
Ricardo

Re: Eskimo Roll

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:40 pm
by kenton
hahsee wrote:Thanks Kenton we call that a snail down under here in OZ
I have also gathered that short of Gale force conditions or a sailing capsize a Klepper stays upright and if inverted you will not be in it but squarely in the briney or checking out Neptunes locker.
regards
Ricardo
I s'pose I should apologise ... However, the only jokes I know are bad jokes 8)

Re: Eskimo Roll

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:58 am
by hahsee
There is no such thing as a bad joke just a bad listener.'
Ive bought my Klepper so when summer arrives I will practice swimming into the cockpit

Re: Eskimo Roll

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:30 am
by kenton
hahsee wrote: There is no such thing as a bad joke just a bad listener.'
Ive bought my Klepper so when summer arrives I will practice swimming into the cockpit
Thank you for the support. I can use all the votes I can get :wink: