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Author:  kayakolyte [ Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need inexpensive skin repair-replacement for Klepper t67

My favorite from an esthetic beauty perspective, is the T 65. It has perfect lines at every angle, IMHO. For paddling on rivers with some whitewater, I would say the Chauveau Slalom. For longer runs where speed and endurance may be a factor, I would say the T 67.

Author:  achap [ Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need inexpensive skin repair-replacement for Klepper t67

Thanks, "Kayakolyte"
I initially got one folding kayak because it would save space in storage. Now I have a frame for a second one, and I can see how much fun it would be to collect other models...where do you store them all? Folded, or assembled?

Author:  RainerM [ Fri Sep 30, 2016 3:31 pm ]
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kayakolyte wrote:
My favorite from an esthetic beauty perspective, is the T 65. It has perfect lines at every angle, IMHO. For paddling on rivers with some whitewater, I would say the Chauveau Slalom. For longer runs where speed and endurance may be a factor, I would say the T 67.


@Steve:

Don't forget the Pionier 450Wa!

Chauveau-boats in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHHOfPqLee8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJAZUGVxMw4

R.

Author:  kayakolyte [ Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need inexpensive skin repair-replacement for Klepper t67

I made an oak display rack that can hold 8 folding kayaks, which I have on display in my very cluttered basement. But it is a safe place, with cool temperature, not too damp and only a small amount of sunlight. The Pionier 450 WA is not in my basement and I never had a chance to paddle it because I immediately loaned it to the Buena Vista, CO Historical Society for their whitewater paddling exhibit.

I am sure Rainer has had more experience paddling these boats than I have had, so I would defer to his opinion. I have tried to paddle each of my boats at least once, but do not wish to damage them in whitewater. Ironically, I have to travel much farther for quiet water than for whitewater and most of my paddling friends are only interested in class III and IV. Nowadays, I mostly paddle a Pyranha Burn III.

When I was living near Lake Michigan years ago, I would use my downriver wildwater boat as a sea kayak (Mendesta Match II). It worked well except when I had large following waves or a strong wind at my back. At those times it was difficult to keep the boat straight, there being no skeg or rudder. I would assume that the Klepper T 67 would behave similarly. Another issue could be storage space, if one were planning an extended trip.

Thank you, Rainer, for the links to the YouTube videos. I had never seen them before. Challenging whitewater for the 1950's, no?

Steve

Author:  BarryM [ Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:27 pm ]
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Hallo Rainer, vielen dank für die YouTube Links.

I had no idea so many of these old videos were out there. Check this out - some pretty skinny SOF kayaks.... I wonder if they were folders.

https://youtu.be/24GdTFKuNqs

Author:  RainerM [ Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:01 pm ]
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Hello Barry,

I think there are only SOF-Greenland-style kayaks in the video.

Check these great video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5qmDHE-pPU

Min 5:40 -> GESA "Eskis" folding boats (types "Möll" and "Drau")
Min 8:48 -> Klepper T67, Klepper T66, Gesa Slalom (58?!), Pionier 450Wa in whitewater action

R.

Author:  BarryM [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:32 pm ]
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Sehr schön! Haben Sie eine Ahnung wo der Film gedreht wurde? Vielleicht Jugoslawien?

Die Paddler mit den aufblasbaren Schwimmwesten sehen aus wie Robotern - lustig!

Viele Grüße aus Amerika,

Barry

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