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This is the effect of the 20 knots tail wind on a Long Haul Mark II Commando with a full (not reefed) BSD 36' HP Sport sail! We loved it... Ready to take our beloved U-Boat for a dive..

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Seasick & Grumpy enjoying a Long Haul Mark II Commando with BSD 36' HP Sport sail

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This is such a great picture. I love how Doi seems to be so relaxed at the moment the picture was taken while 1/3 of the kayak is under water. Cool shot. Do you have the entire video available? Do you think, given the same conditions, if the bow was not loaded down and had a float in the bow instead, would the bow still go under water?

thank you...

we had to be relaxed because there was no other way... we had to travel south that day and we sailed like that for about three hours after which the wind got really bad and we had to reef the sail.

each time the bow went under for too long we slowed down a bit..

not sure about the float, we never use floats because we need each available inch for gear, food, water, etc. Our boat is always heavy and doesn't jump at all in the surf... it goes through, which I find to be safe, steady and more pleasant than the surf rodeo... it is a solid folder that stays together under stress



more images:

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and a few more images of the boat on Facebook (must be logged-in on FB) https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.637478229602266.1073741825.100000202830777&type=3

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Seasick & Grumpy enjoying a Long Haul Mark II Commando with BSD 36' HP Sport sail

http://vimeo.com/channels/travelotherapy

Fantastic photos, what sort of camera were you using and where did you have it mounted?

Marty

Thank you.

GoPro on an improvised jib mounted on the front mast.

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Seasick & Grumpy enjoying a Long Haul Mark II Commando with BSD 36' HP Sport sail

http://vimeo.com/channels/travelotherapy

What a hoot. There can be no better kayak sailing pics out there. Mark is nuts if he doesn't post them on his site, if you give him permission. Thanks for sharing those thrills!

Greg

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"There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing around in boats"

1988 A1 Expedition
2010 carbon Klepper Quattro
BSD sail rig, 24' mizzen + 36' main
39' jib
Torqeedo outboard
1938 Sachs-Fichtel seitenbordmotor

I shoot stills and video as a hobby because it makes me happy... The pictures are meant to be seen so Mark has always my permission to post them..

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Seasick & Grumpy enjoying a Long Haul Mark II Commando with BSD 36' HP Sport sail

http://vimeo.com/channels/travelotherapy

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The two of you make a great crew. My best goes out to you, but also to your First Mate. You two are real troopers!

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Kenton

Thank you. Indeed, having a good team is the most important ingredient of any such endeavor. I was blessed with an excellent First Mate.

I don't want to hijack Frank's thread, sorry Frank...

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Seasick & Grumpy enjoying a Long Haul Mark II Commando with BSD 36' HP Sport sail

http://vimeo.com/channels/travelotherapy

The best part will be when I get my first mate a bit braver so we can get more speed when the wind is right. I know with time her confidence level in the MK2 will increase. Next year I plan on buying the BSD rig to go along with the KS rig. One step at a time. BTW, your pics are great!

I want to add my thanks for your great pictures. I did not know that Long Haul kayaks work so well as submarines. By the way, you and your wife are both braver than me.

Thank you... We'll be testing our luck in the Pacific Northwest later this summer...

Kidding aside, the Long Haul MKII is an exceptional boat in long term remote expeditions. Tons of water (80 litres of fluids), tons of food and gear (up to 900 lbs total load capacity, crew + cargo). We love it...

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Seasick & Grumpy enjoying a Long Haul Mark II Commando with BSD 36' HP Sport sail

http://vimeo.com/channels/travelotherapy

Where are you going in the Pacific Northwest? Our first awareness of folders was an Aerius II in Lake Chelan in Washington State. That was 1971 I think. I agree with you on Long Haul Kayaks. My current favorite boat is a MK1.

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Seasick & Grumpy enjoying a Long Haul Mark II Commando with BSD 36' HP Sport sail

http://vimeo.com/channels/travelotherapy

Hello John Allsop and Frank P, I have not been on this site for a long time, and resigned up just yesterday. Found Frank P has joined and lives right in my hometown of Waukesha and has a very similar boat. I note in the thread above John's comments about the Spring Creek outriggers, which John and I bought about the same time a few years back and I believe we both bought extended arms...mine have a total spread of 10 feet now. I saw John's comment about still being able to tip a Klepper or Long Haul Mark 2 with the Spring Creek outriggers. He is totally correct....my wife and I were out on Pewaukee Lake, in Waukesha County, Wisconsin about 4 years ago, luckily on a warm sunny day when the water was about 85 F. The winds were gusting to about 35 mph and the water very, very choppy. In an instant we flipped our Klepper/Long Haul!!! My wife is a scaredy-cat and had promised never to go out with me again if I flipped it. Fortunately, it was warm and with lots of folks around to help out. She still goes out with me, but I have to be careful.....since then I added the longer arm extensions and now have all sorts of flotation air bags in the bow and stern to keep the boat higher in the water if one does tip. Makes for easier bailouts. I was using an S4 Klepper rig when we went over, unreefed. I am very keen to try the Kayaksailer rig, which I have been looking at for a couple of years, but not had time (with my travels to Asia for work) to purchase and use. Also considering a BSD rig....I have not compared the price and effectiveness (speed, safety, etc) of the two rigs, but know there is a lot of difference. Look forward to hearing any comparisons you guys can offer. Chris

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1965 Klepper Aerius 2 with 2005 Long Haul hull
1965 Klepper S4 sail rig, with 14 sq ft jib; Sail Rite 32 sq ft genoa; and 41 sq ft main
BSD/BOSS-Wilkes modified outriggers
Spring Creek outriggers
Souris River Canoe
Wegu 19'Sailboat